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You know, I noticed a passing mention in one of your essays youve got posted on your Web site of the great pirate-radio ships who were offshore in Britain in the 60s. Is that kind of your underlying philosophy? Here we are out here, broadcasting from beyond the legal zone, and nobody can touch us?
Yeah, symbolically. And at the same time, its complementary to what mainstream radios playing in the middle of the week. Its not totally unrelated; Im not playing a jazz show here. About 20 percent of it is brand new stuff, and 20 percent may be unfamiliar. But half of it should be familiar, because it was the hits at one time. Or its the roots of what theyre playing the rest of the week on that station. So its directly related. I think it works in that sense, too.
Whats your selection process for the show?
Its complicated. Um, I have my songs separated into about 15 different categories. I try to do something that has a good combination of the old and the new, of harder and not so hard, familiar and unfamiliar, British and American. There are a lot of ways to balance out the show, and I work real hard to get those 25 songs per week to capture a bit of everything that I want to say that week.
There seems to be a bit of the tent-revival preacher in your voice when youre back announcing your sets. Do you labor over these things, plan out what youre going to say a lot?
No, because I just love it, and it I get a little enthusiastic, its because I am! Thats no act. I love this stuff. Im trying to do one of those shows from the past where you werent being watched so closely and you were kind of able to express yourself in anyway you wanted. At the same time, Im not pretending to be completely objective here. This is my taste, in the end. Its what I feel is the coolest stuff ever done. Hopefully, people will agree.
Any favorite songs you always know will work on a show? The get the party started classics like, say, the MC5s Shakin' Street?
Gee, I dunno. I went about four months before I repeated a song. There are a lot Id like to repeat, but there are so many I want to get in, too. I do what I call The Coolest Song In The World each week, and thats something I try to repeat in a couple of weeks because thats a brand-new song by a brand-new band usually.
Out on tour, are you hitting record stores and looking for stuff?
If Im in a town, Ill do that. Youll find regional things. But mostly, by this point these small record companies will send me stuff, or friends of friends who know what Im looking for. Bands themselves will have friends in bands, too.
You do a great job of drawing the lines of history togetherplaying oldies alongside newer bands like ...
The Shazam, Greenhornes, Cotton Mather, Creatures Of The Golden Dawn, Anderson Council ... I love the Boss Martians, Sugar Shack, Model Rockets. Mooney Suzuki are terrific, Mr. Brown out of Australiatheres a bunch of bands in Australia. I cant wait to get down there! And of course the bands like Vines, Hives, Strokes that we dont even have to mention. Theres at least 25 newer bands Im playing to keep an eye on, because now we have two solid generations of guitar bands out there, the generation that started out in the 80s and the one now. The Chesterfield Kings are coming back with a new record, Vipers, Cynics, you cant beat them. The Swingin Neckbreakersthey were on The Sopranos this season, did you see them? They were in the second show this year. As we walk into Adrianas bar, theyre playing in there!
That was your doing, no doubt.
Yeah! [laughs] They asked me for a music group, and of course it was gonna be one of our garage bands.
What would Silvio do if he found out a daughter or niece was getting hot and heavy with a hairy pill-poppin member of a garage band?
[long, evil laugh] He would NOT be too thrilled about it! Silvio is REAL old-fashioned, heh-heh-heh!
Unless there was an Italian-American garage band, of course. Are there any?
[cracking up] Per se, I dunno! Im going over to Italy now with Bruce, so maybe Ill find out.
Ask around some of the wise guys in Jersey. Hey, we got a kids party and we need a band. Cant have no Jews, no Hispanics, no blacks in there. Just Italians.
Yeah! [laughs] Anyway, it is wonderful to see, finally, this new generation of young people, whove been looking for something to call their own, now theyre starting to find it. Its gonna be garage rock, this kinda stuff were talking about. Because its just exciting, its fun, its cool. Again, a lot of the rap and hard rock stuff can be so heavy, so serious. And it all gets a bit homogenized after a while. Thats the great thing about garage music. Every single band is different. They really are. And I think as people discover more of these sorts of bands, theyre gonna be really, really pleasantly surprised. Its the closest thing to the 60s were ever gonna have. These groups are learning from the 60s and skipping all those boring decades since.
Do you think therell be a backlash once it all gets a lot of media coverage? Ah, White Stripes suck ...
It doesnt matter. I dont live my life according to fashion or what the medias doing. I know whats great and whats cool and thats gonna survive regardless of what the media does with it. I mean, are you gonna get more hype than the Beatles when they came out? I dont think thats possible. The Beatles were everywhere, all of the time. They had five of the top 10 singles (simultaneously). The whole world was nothing but Beatles for a full year. So what? They continued to make great records and people continued to love em to the end. But the people concerned about being super-hip about things? Yeah, they can be concerned about it, you know?
Of course, if we get Britney Spears produced by Jack White on our next album instead of somebody like the Neptunes, we might have a small problem.
Hah-haahhh! You know what? Well even survive that!
And she did cover Satisfaction. Stranger things have happened, I guess. Hey, I read the story on you that Guitar Player ran in their November issue. You mentioned in that interview youd like to do a label as well as get a TV show going and setting up a touring network.
When I say things like infrastructure, thats what Im talking about. Weve got the makings of an infrastructure here if I just get a little bit lucky and have the time to dedicate to it. If a few people come on to help me here we can get a record company going, we can get a TV show going. We have the Hard Rocks all over the country, 40 of them, ready to do tours. So you get radio, TV, touring, record company, and you got a little business. Im not gonna try and reform the record business. I aint gonna be dumb enough to try and go in there and fix it. It aint fixable. So whattaya do? You create another business. An alternative music business. Thats what Ive been working on it over the past three years, slowly. Lost a lot of it on 9/11, a year ago. I had a lot in place, and that put the revolution back a year or two. But I am fully engaged in this, and thats what it is, an absolute revolution and Im gonna continue to do whatever I can do to bring rock n roll back ... its never gonna be as big as it was, and its never gonna be the mainstream music of choice. But thats OK. I just wanna bring it back to where bands can make a living doing it.
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