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Charlottes Fetchin Bones almost made it nationally, toured a lot and even got to do a big-deal record with a big-deal producer (Monster, with Ed Stasium, on Capitol), but they eventually fizzled out. Then there was an amazing band from Asheville, PureI saw them and Polvo on a bill one time that was mind-blowingbut they disappeared.
Pure, right! Merge did a seven-inch with them. They were amazing, and thenpffft! Who knows what happened. Another band that we did a few seven-inches and an EP with was Erectus Monotone. They had a real unique chemistry and songwriting, a unique combination of people; Jennifer Barwick went on to be in Ashley Stove, who also made some great records. You know, one thing I sometimes think about is some of the regional compilations. There was Tobacco A Go Go (60s garage bands from NC), which never ended up on CD.
Any good up-and-coming Tarheel bands we should know about from your point of view? You can plug one of your own Merge groups, of course.
Well, it will definitely sound like a plug, but the Rosebuds, from Raleigh. Once you hear them, their songs just have this timeless qualitypop songs, just good songs, and with an amazing amount of energy. The band is incredibly infectious. Theres a band called Work Clothes from Chapel Hill, although they seem to do things at a snails pace as far as making records. Theyve been working on an album for a long time but they did put out an EP. Real quiet, a guy and a girl with pretty, catchy, cool songs. Theres a band called Shallow Be Thy Name, a larger ensemble. The name makes you think theyd sound like Sisters Of Mercy or something but its pop music. Kingsbury Manx has made some great records; they record out at Duck Kee studios where we recorded our first record and we still do some Superchunk stuff.
I also wanted to talk about you and your current tastes. What are some of the bands or records youve been listening to lately?
Well, I still buy so many CDs its unhealthy. Especially when you say to yourself, Oh, I can write this off on my taxes. Too many ways to justify it. And theres a really good store in Chapel Hill called CD Alley thats very close to my house. And of course whatever you find online, too. So I think Ive almost developed some sort of attention-deficit disorder from having too many CDs.
I feel your pain.
[Laughs] Nothing stays in the CD player for too long, but Ive really been into the Ethiopiques series (of world music) recently. The most recent one Ive gotten is Volume 13 titled Ethiopian Groove. Its just not like anything else I have or that Ive heard; the musics not wholly unfamiliar, because a lot of it is rock, and its electric. But the singing, the words, I dont understand. And there are always good liner notes. Its just great-sounding music. It has an atmosphere to it that implies a certain time, sounding oldI dont mean crappyand from another place, and its not so easily absorbed.
I wonder if a similar thing didnt go down with you previously that led Portastatic to record Brazilian music?
Yeah, definitely. To me, the Brazilian thing is more about how those are just indelible songs. Those songwriters transcend just about any place. But the Ethiopiques and the Orchestra Baobob (Senegal orchestra) records that have come out over the past few yearslike Baobobs Pirates Choice reissue, from 1982, and their Specialist In All Styles album (2002), those are things I can listen to over and over again, but as I say, its not so easily absorbed like a lot of other stuff. There are plenty of new things that come out that I like, but a lot of times, rock music and new CDs I buy, even if I enjoy them I still feel like I absorb them pretty fast.
Youre not as compelled to listen to it over and over again like you might have as a teenager when your ears were, as I like to put it, innocent.
Yeah, and Ive had a lot of conversations about this with friends. Ive been trying to place whether its me, or the music thats coming out, or the format, or ...
Part of it is getting older. We become so familiar with the language, compared to when we were younger and everything seemed fresh and unique and crazy.
I remember when a new Hüsker Dü record, or a new R.E.M. record, or a new Fall record would come out, first of all it required some effort to get the record; you couldnt just sit down at your computer and order it. I was living in New York at the time, so I had to take a train downtown and stuff. Anyway, when youd get the record youd listen to it over and over. It would stay on your turntable. I rarely have that experience anymore where something demands that kind of attention from me. And in some ways its the amount of stuff thats available now. I was thinking about what Id been listening to before this interview. Theres the Ethiopiques records. I like the new Stereolab album. There were a couple of their records in the middle that didnt really float my boat but the last couple Ive really enjoyed. And I think the Franz Ferdinand record is really good. Then there are so many reissues! I could buy nothing but soul reissues.
Some of the funk and soul compilations open a Pandoras box: Start with a Motown collection, move on to a Stax box, and then pretty soon its into the obscure artists whose rare 45s have been collected on some label like Soul Jazz or Tuff City.
Ive been listening to a Joe Simon CD called Monument Of Soul. Just amazing. And theres a Bobby Patterson CD, Soul Is My Music. And a P.P. Arnold best of that I got. And I hadnt heard of these people until not that long ago, so that makes me wonder who else out there that I havent heard of is this good. It gets mind-boggling. So much of this stuff wasnt on my radar years ago, and even if it had been, where would I have found it? Now I can sit down at the Dusty Groove Web site and go insane.
I also like this electronic label called Morr Music, from Berlin. Ive been disappointed a couple of times, but Ill still buy almost anything on that label and check it out. This group called Isan [has a recent album], Meet Next Life. And a guy called B. Fleischmann has an album called Welcome Tourists thats a pretty cool combination of electronic music and real instrumentation and orchestration. Forced Exposure or Other Music would have stuff on Morr. A label like that is really cool because its electronic music but pop, as in songs, and pretty compelling songwriting for the most part.
Since you bring up songwriting: One thing is that with Portastatic youve put more emphasis on your lyrics than you do in Superchunk, and you also seem to have gotten more introspective and impressionistic in your songwriting as well. Does this suggest that youre a voracious reader, or perhaps have a long-simmering desire to be a writer?
Well, I love reading, but I find it hard to read it home. We have a nine-month old daughter, and I was busy before that, so now you can imagine! I always have a few books going at once it seems. Lately Ive been reading that Phil Spector biography Hes A Rebel. Parts are just insane. And for someone whos not only fascinated by that girl-group sound but who makes records, too, I love reading about that production and stuff. Theres also a great book by Greg Palast called The Best Democracy That Money Can Buy. Its pretty frightening how the world works and all your worst suspicions confirmed, and it doesnt bode well for the future.
Film?
Having a daughter makes it hard to go to movies, so Ive really gotten into DVDs of The Office and the first season of Curb Your Enthusiasm. Both of those shows are amazing. Theres another great British show called Im Alan Partridge. Its the actor who was in 24 Hour Party People, Steve Coogan, and he has this series of comedy shows on the BBC. A couple of those shows are on DVD in the U.K. Thats some of the funniest shit Ive ever seen. So I try to balance out the political talk shows Im addicted to with some comedy.
You have to give yourself a break from all the bad news that is so relentless. I have a three-year-old and I just want to shelter him until hes 21 from all the crap. I get so angry at times
Thats right. Its one thing when youre 25 and you figure, How is this really affecting me? Youre abstractly angry. But then when you look at the world thats being created and you realize that your kids are gonna grow up in this world its not so abstract anymore.
How has having a kid changed your life beyond the obvious time constraints? I remember before we decided to have a kid I was reading a bio of Springsteen and he was talking about changing diapers. All of a sudden it made sense to me.
You look at people who have kids and do music at the same time, like Corin from Sleater-Kinney, or Kim and Thurston (from Sonic Youth), and you realize it can be done. But it can be a daunting task to carve out a few hours to write or record. Speaking of Springsteen, we saw him on the reunion tour when my wife was pregnant. And then one of the first big things we did after [the daughter] was born was to see him in Chapel Hill on The Rising tour.
And you covered Bobby Jean and Growing Up on your last Portastatic EP. That strikes a blow for my inner classic rocker.
For me, whether Portastatic or in Superchunk, at the heart of it its always been about trying to write great songs. And you cant deny the guys songs.
Well, Ive always been pretty up front that he, Neil Young and the Who are probably my all-time faves. So tell mewho is your favorite musician?
Aw, gosh ... I dunno! [Laughs, long pause, then mock-moan] Cmon, you cant ask someone a question like that!
Thats OK. Well let you off the hook, Mac. Youve already done your share by putting a lot of great tunes into the great mix tape of life.
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