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What are you thinking about for covers? Can you talk about that?
Yeah. Im going to do crooner tunes. Andy Williams. Shit like that.
Are you pulling my leg or are you serious?
This is dead serious. Ive been wanting to do it for a long time and Ill call it Mr. Sophistication. That was the name of the guy in The Killing Of A Chinese Bookie (a 1976 film directed by John Cassavetes and starring Ben Gazzara) who was the kind of guy that told jokes in a strip club. I wanted it to be orchestrated and shit. Its something Ive wanted to do for a long time because the singing on those songs is pretty damn great. If youre a younger singer, its quite challenging. You dont know how great a fuckin singer Sinatra was, you know? [Clomping sounds and heavy breathing]
Do you need to take a breather?
Yeah, hold on a second. [More panting and cursing]
You gotta give up those cigarettes.
Dude, you have no idea. You have no idea. OK. [Panting] Back in the game. Whats up?
Ill give you a minute to collect yourself.
Yeah. Thank you. I appreciate that. I gotta get a drink of fuckin water after it almost killed me bringing it here. Im a veritable camel. Might as well enjoy the fruits of my labor.
About three or four years ago, I read you were putting out a record with Greg Dulli. I know you did a Twilight Singers song and hes on one of your songs, but is there something full-blown in the works?
Were three-quarters of the way through it. Were supposed to finish it next month. We just got to record a couple more times and were done with it.
A few distractions along the way?
Thats why Ive got to come to some foreign country where theres no water or electricity and carry my shit up four flights of stairs. Just to try and write a song.
So did you take anything away from the whole Queens experience in terms of your solo material?
I think you take something away from every experience unless youre a dummy.
OK, Ill ask it this way: What did you take away from being in Queens Of The Stone Age?
I took away a lot of money that they didnt want to give me, but I took it because contractually they had to.
Thats cool.
[Laughs] Im kidding. Heres the deal, man. My job there is never done. In fact, I gotta go home to work on the Queens record right now. I just got a call yesterday. Its the most satisfying collaborative situation that Ive had. Ive had a lot of great people that have played with me and written records with me and all that shit, but me and Josh have a lot of fun when we write together. Its just as simple as that. Im a really huge fan and I dont have to be responsible for it. Its a lot of freedom. What other guy in rock do you know that gets to get up and sing for five minutes a night and not have to fuckin stay out there and sweat? Just be up there to throw a little darkness on people and then get the hell out. Its the best job in the world when Im working with Queens, and I love those guys. Theyre my best friends. Thats what I take away from it. And I think were making music that is unique and timeless. When you hear the new record, its going to blow your fuckin mind.
Whats your take on the split with Nick Oliveri?
My take is that its between them. I love Nick, I do. I just sang on his new record, which is an acoustic record. It sounds great. Its stuff from all through his career, from his very first band to his last Queens record. Hes been doing a lot of acoustic shows and he wanted to do a record that represented that. In typical Nick fashion, he did like 25 tunes in 18 hours. The way I look at it is this: We get to have twice as much of the music that I personally love, so I think thats a good thing.
Somehow I cant picture Nick playing acoustic material.
Its funny, because we were on the road three years straight up until six months ago. He and I must have done 100 guerrilla acoustic shows. In other words, if we got to a town and we had a day off, wed go down to the local record store and offer to do an in-store. Hes really good at it. Usually I would just sing a couple tunes like I do in Queens, but when you see Nick do that thing, you get to see the great side of him that we all who are friends of his and love him see the humanity of him. Which is not necessarily what you see
Not to sound corny or anything, but when hes onstage with Queens, you dont get an idea of this really lovely guy. Hes a special character and also one of the most talented musicians Ive ever known. Hes probably the most natural talent Ive ever known. Thats why doing an acoustic show with him is really a charming experience, if you can believe it. If you can get past the dicks tattooed on his chest, that is. [Laughs]
Its funny; the things you say about him are exactly what Greg Dulli said about you in an interview I read recently. Im wondering if theres a kinship with Nick because you were a bad boy in your younger years.
I turn 40 in two months, dude. Im surprised I made it up those stairs. That almost killed me. Thats about as bad boy as I am these days. I live vicariously through those guys that are 20 years younger.
Lets jump back to the record for a minute. When do the lyrics come to you? In the studio? In the shower?
It comes to me in a golden shower.
Im sorry I asked.
Hey, that was a fuckin fastball right down the middle. That 12-year-old humor I still got going on. You know what? A lot of times Im drivin and I get it. Really, Im kind of a bricklayer when it comes to making songs up. I dont know how other people do it, but first off, I make a sound on my guitar. Then I make a sound with my voice. And then that sound tells me what the first word is and so forth. Usually Im not sure what the hell the thing means until its done.
You seem to have a death obsession.
I think its just a matter of my musical taste. There are obviously people who are darker than me. Ill tell you a little story if you got a second at 6:30 in the morning.
I have a second.
When Johnny Cash made his first record with American, they asked a bunch of different guys to write songs for him. I was one of those guys. I had just seen him on a Billy Graham crusade on TV and I thought my songs were way too dark for Johnny Cash. So I sent him all these pussy songs that I had, and his record came out and it was all like Glenn Danzig. That was the last time I ever fuckin questioned it. That was my big mistake. So it depends on your idea of what dark is.
So what are you doing for fun these days?
I am reexamining ... [Grunting] ... my ability to take my coat off with one arm. I think we got it. Yep, that was fun. Lets see ... Im makin records, man. Getting a divorce, thats fun. And makin records. Those are the things Im doing for fun. I know the things that you do around those two polar extremes, which for me, means spending a lot of money on processes and whatnot. But in case my mom reads this, Im just kidding.
At the end of the day, the lawyers get rich. Thats what its all about.
[Laughs] What part of Pittsburgh do you live in, man?
About 10 or 15 minutes south of downtown.
Ah, youre in the burbs.
Im old. Ive moved to the burbs to die.
Thats OK. Im living in this place because its free. I had to come all the way to Belgium to find a place where somebody would let me live for free. Pittsburgh, the last time I was there, believe it or not, I had to walk that fuckin hill. That must be some sort of theme here today. That almost killed me, too. Behind the hospital, or wherever?
Up by the Arena?
I thought Id score some drugs up there, but it wasnt worth the walk.
You dont want to be walking around in that area.
Well, yeah, you know. Like I said, I was only there seven times last year.
With Queens?
Yeah. We were in Pittsburgh more than any other place. Every fuckin couple of months, there we would be in Pittsburgh again. Finally we realized wed been there like eight times. Nick and I kept going to that little record store out there. A punk-rock record store up some flights of stairs?
Probably in Oakland. Out by Pitt.
Yeah, Pitt.
I saw you guys play there at Club Laga. Which is closed now, by the way.
That was one of the places. We also played in like 10 degrees below zero weather outside right there at the campus. Its was so goddamned cold. It was like, how are my hands going to work? Finally, we did it because come showtime, the place was fuckin packed with people in their parkas and shit.
I didnt hear about that show.
People probably werent talking about it, because a lot of people wet their pants. This happens when its really, really cold out and you listen to rock music. You cant really feel your bladder working and theres the excitement of seeing a bunch of hot guys onstage. Thats why that one has gone unreported until now. Im pretty sure. I know I wet my pants during the show.
Thats a good tip. Ill remember that for the next outdoor show.
Yeah, wear your Depends.
So are you getting in hostility in Europe because youre from the U.S.?
I tell you what, man. Everyone on this street wears a turban, so Im from the Yukon Territory. Its not even a province of Canada. Its a territory. [Laughs] Ive probably been asked 10 times a day since Ive been here. Not in a shitty way, but Im pretty much the only dumbshit of my kind on the street here in Antwerp.
But youre telling everyone youre from Canada?
Im telling everyone Im from Canada. Yukon Territory. You know, a province is like a state, but a territory isnt even real. Its tough, man. Bush is something else, isnt he?
He is something else.
Im not a political guy. Im just this dumbass singer, but Im so surprised that people dont see what these people are doing. It isnt about people in another country at all; its about stealing from American people. Its about these huge corporations and these guys who sit on the board of directors and they need to create an infrastructure. They need to create a whole fuckin city every time they create one of these wars. So Halliburton gets a $30 billion contract and then contracts out to the Iraqis for $1 billion. You know what I mean? Its all about those fuckers making money and theyre killing young American people to do it and obviously all these other people. Thats my spiel on that. Thats why America fuckin sucks right now, because of George Bush, Dick Cheney and everyone thats part of that government.
Hopefully well wise up in November.
Yeah. If I wasnt a convicted felon, I would vote.
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