Comments on: The Over/Under: Nirvana http://www.magnetmagazine.com/2010/02/16/the-overunder-nirvana/ Real Music Alternatives Sat, 11 Feb 2012 21:12:51 +0000 hourly 1 By: Shawn http://www.magnetmagazine.com/2010/02/16/the-overunder-nirvana/comment-page-1/#comment-83448 Shawn Wed, 29 Sep 2010 08:47:22 +0000 http://www.magnetmagazine.com/?p=60843#comment-83448 I pride myself in being one of the biggest Nirvana fans around and I can seriously say I would not be the person I am today without their music. With that said, I think they are the most overrated band to ever exist. Nearly everything that the media portrays them as is total bullshit. It was all just cooked up to sell more records (and everything else) since the Hair Metal scene was starting to get very, very played out. But on to the list. With the exception of "Teen Spirit" and "Polly" (to the extent that the story is very sad and that it should be treated with more respect and should never be sung along with by an entire Reading Festival crowd.) the overrated list is horridly wrong. Each of those songs garner a great amount of the praise they have been given, especially "Sliver." On the other hand, the underrated is pretty spot on. The only thing I would change is replace "Marigold" with "Sifting" or "Downer" or maybe even a bit of a stretch and say "Mollys Lips." I pride myself in being one of the biggest Nirvana fans around and I can seriously say I would not be the person I am today without their music. With that said, I think they are the most overrated band to ever exist. Nearly everything that the media portrays them as is total bullshit. It was all just cooked up to sell more records (and everything else) since the Hair Metal scene was starting to get very, very played out. But on to the list. With the exception of “Teen Spirit” and “Polly” (to the extent that the story is very sad and that it should be treated with more respect and should never be sung along with by an entire Reading Festival crowd.) the overrated list is horridly wrong. Each of those songs garner a great amount of the praise they have been given, especially “Sliver.” On the other hand, the underrated is pretty spot on. The only thing I would change is replace “Marigold” with “Sifting” or “Downer” or maybe even a bit of a stretch and say “Mollys Lips.”

]]> By: Yeah http://www.magnetmagazine.com/2010/02/16/the-overunder-nirvana/comment-page-1/#comment-44928 Yeah Fri, 05 Mar 2010 23:54:02 +0000 http://www.magnetmagazine.com/?p=60843#comment-44928 All Nirvana songs are overrated. Especially the ones on Nevermind. All Nirvana songs are overrated. Especially the ones on Nevermind.

]]> By: Glenn Boothe http://www.magnetmagazine.com/2010/02/16/the-overunder-nirvana/comment-page-1/#comment-44170 Glenn Boothe Wed, 03 Mar 2010 02:06:57 +0000 http://www.magnetmagazine.com/?p=60843#comment-44170 I agree, Nirvana tossed off some great songs. Here is my under-rated list of non-album tracks (although some did appear later on Incesticide.) Sappy Dive Stain Spank Thru Been A Son I agree, Nirvana tossed off some great songs. Here is my under-rated list of non-album tracks (although some did appear later on Incesticide.)

Sappy
Dive
Stain
Spank Thru
Been A Son

]]> By: Eric E. C. http://www.magnetmagazine.com/2010/02/16/the-overunder-nirvana/comment-page-1/#comment-43130 Eric E. C. Thu, 25 Feb 2010 01:44:46 +0000 http://www.magnetmagazine.com/?p=60843#comment-43130 "Nirvana was called the most influential musical group since the Beatles, but will anyone make that assertion in 2010?" People still are. Even to this day KROQ 106.7, the biggest alternative/metal rock radio station in southern california (which is overall the biggest radio market in the world, just in case anyone thinks what I'm saying doesn't matter) holds an annual event titled: "106.7 biggest KROQ bands of all time" and all patrons vote on KROQ's website. Just from my experience, Nirvana was picked the #1 biggest KROQ band in 2002, 2003, 2004, and 2005. I cannot recall 06'-08' but Last year in 2009 Nirvana had dropped a single slot to #2 while the Red Hot Chili Peppers upsurped the #1 slot. As time goes on, people love to go back and question the integrity and lasting status of everything. Whether it be films, videogames, music, what have you. These types of articles are much of a cliche'-form of journalism that always draws on heat from the loyalists, which is always great for web hits and, to a lesser extent, magazine sales. “Nirvana was called the most influential musical group since the Beatles, but will anyone make that assertion in 2010?”

People still are. Even to this day KROQ 106.7, the biggest alternative/metal rock radio station in southern california (which is overall the biggest radio market in the world, just in case anyone thinks what I’m saying doesn’t matter) holds an annual event titled: “106.7 biggest KROQ bands of all time” and all patrons vote on KROQ’s website. Just from my experience, Nirvana was picked the #1 biggest KROQ band in 2002, 2003, 2004, and 2005. I cannot recall 06′-08′ but Last year in 2009 Nirvana had dropped a single slot to #2 while the Red Hot Chili Peppers upsurped the #1 slot.

As time goes on, people love to go back and question the integrity and lasting status of everything. Whether it be films, videogames, music, what have you. These types of articles are much of a cliche’-form of journalism that always draws on heat from the loyalists, which is always great for web hits and, to a lesser extent, magazine sales.

]]> By: zandar http://www.magnetmagazine.com/2010/02/16/the-overunder-nirvana/comment-page-1/#comment-42897 zandar Tue, 23 Feb 2010 20:06:27 +0000 http://www.magnetmagazine.com/?p=60843#comment-42897 Come on, man. "Sliver" is brilliant- so honest and clearly autobiographical. A moment of pure youthful fagility, set to metalliic death ray guitar. The very definition of irony. Great example of Kurt's genius as a songwriter. Agree with Ethan, "Aneurysm" is underrated- one of my favorites. I'd add to "Milk It" to the underrated. Some of Kurt's best lyrics, one of the heaviest.songs.ever. "marigold-" meh. This is from someone who never says meh. Come on, man. “Sliver” is brilliant- so honest and clearly autobiographical. A moment of pure youthful fagility, set to metalliic death ray guitar. The very definition of irony. Great example of Kurt’s genius as a songwriter.

Agree with Ethan, “Aneurysm” is underrated- one of my favorites.

I’d add to “Milk It” to the underrated. Some of Kurt’s best lyrics, one of the heaviest.songs.ever.

“marigold-” meh. This is from someone who never says meh.

]]> By: John E http://www.magnetmagazine.com/2010/02/16/the-overunder-nirvana/comment-page-1/#comment-42888 John E Tue, 23 Feb 2010 18:29:47 +0000 http://www.magnetmagazine.com/?p=60843#comment-42888 Another sometimes overlooked thiing about NIrvana and why they were so popular is they played a more "inclusive" (for lack of a better word) form punk rock. It appealed more to the masses than the 70's and 80's stuff because Nirvana brought more "classic rock" influence into it. It was more familiar to them than, say the Sex Pistols or Husker Du. Cobain always talked about Kiss and Led Zeppelin and AC/DC being big influences on him as a kid...as well as the Beatles of course. When Nevermind first broke, I was a freshman in college and I recall rock fans of all stripes - metalheads, punks, indie rockers, etc, all digging it. Pearl Jam accomplished the same feat to a degree. And that along with the tragic end of his life and the band is why (arguably too soon), the band and that album were immediately awarded voice of a generation and album/artist of the decade status. With the music industry so split by niches and genres now and with so many different ways to discover new music now compared to 1991 (basically just commercial radio, MTV, a few cool indie rock kids you might have known at school), Nirvana will be the last band to break like that and have that kind of impact on a generation of kids ever again....or at least for awhile anyway. Another sometimes overlooked thiing about NIrvana and why they were so popular is they played a more “inclusive” (for lack of a better word) form punk rock. It appealed more to the masses than the 70′s and 80′s stuff because Nirvana brought more “classic rock” influence into it. It was more familiar to them than, say the Sex Pistols or Husker Du. Cobain always talked about Kiss and Led Zeppelin and AC/DC being big influences on him as a kid…as well as the Beatles of course.

When Nevermind first broke, I was a freshman in college and I recall rock fans of all stripes – metalheads, punks, indie rockers, etc, all digging it. Pearl Jam accomplished the same feat to a degree. And that along with the tragic end of his life and the band is why (arguably too soon), the band and that album were immediately awarded voice of a generation and album/artist of the decade status.

With the music industry so split by niches and genres now and with so many different ways to discover new music now compared to 1991 (basically just commercial radio, MTV, a few cool indie rock kids you might have known at school), Nirvana will be the last band to break like that and have that kind of impact on a generation of kids ever again….or at least for awhile anyway.

]]> By: serpico009 http://www.magnetmagazine.com/2010/02/16/the-overunder-nirvana/comment-page-1/#comment-42646 serpico009 Mon, 22 Feb 2010 14:45:40 +0000 http://www.magnetmagazine.com/?p=60843#comment-42646 Five Underated: "Drain You" "Even In His Youth" "Oh, The Guilt" "Aneurysm" "I Hate Myself and I Want To Die" I always thought you could tell Nirvana was a truly great band by the quality of the B-sides. Five Underated:

“Drain You”
“Even In His Youth”
“Oh, The Guilt”
“Aneurysm”
“I Hate Myself and I Want To Die”

I always thought you could tell Nirvana was a truly great band by the quality of the B-sides.

]]> By: Howie Lord http://www.magnetmagazine.com/2010/02/16/the-overunder-nirvana/comment-page-1/#comment-41970 Howie Lord Thu, 18 Feb 2010 03:03:41 +0000 http://www.magnetmagazine.com/?p=60843#comment-41970 Jonc, Good call on the Killing Joke riff! I'm gonna tell all my "Stuck in the 90's" friends!! Jonc, Good call on the Killing Joke riff! I’m gonna tell all my “Stuck in the 90′s” friends!!

]]> By: The Doorman http://www.magnetmagazine.com/2010/02/16/the-overunder-nirvana/comment-page-1/#comment-41928 The Doorman Wed, 17 Feb 2010 23:23:37 +0000 http://www.magnetmagazine.com/?p=60843#comment-41928 Easily dismissed as an embryonic dirge-rock predecessor to "Nevermind", "Bleach" is actually a great in-your-face heavy (downtuned guitars, yeah!) album and therefore underrated. Same goes for the track 'Blandest', even relegated to B-side status, which featured some of the most awesome maniacal screaming of Cobain. Picking 'Marigold' here as an underrated track is total BS. Seems like a forced move to include the Foo Fighters in this article. Yeah, ofcourse it's tempting to lump Nirvana’s entire catalog into the overrated category, as a natural response to the hype that came along. Fact remains that Cobain wrote some pretty infectious poppy rock-stuff and above all made music transpired with EMOTION. You could feel his anger and frustration. Personally, I don't get really turned on by Eddie Vedder and Stephen Malkmus. Easily dismissed as an embryonic dirge-rock predecessor to “Nevermind”, “Bleach” is actually a great in-your-face heavy (downtuned guitars, yeah!) album and therefore underrated. Same goes for the track ‘Blandest’, even relegated to B-side status, which featured some of the most awesome maniacal screaming of Cobain. Picking ‘Marigold’ here as an underrated track is total BS. Seems like a forced move to include the Foo Fighters in this article.
Yeah, ofcourse it’s tempting to lump Nirvana’s entire catalog into the overrated category, as a natural response to the hype that came along. Fact remains that Cobain wrote some pretty infectious poppy rock-stuff and above all made music transpired with EMOTION. You could feel his anger and frustration. Personally, I don’t get really turned on by Eddie Vedder and Stephen Malkmus.

]]> By: Jonc http://www.magnetmagazine.com/2010/02/16/the-overunder-nirvana/comment-page-1/#comment-41780 Jonc Wed, 17 Feb 2010 01:30:13 +0000 http://www.magnetmagazine.com/?p=60843#comment-41780 The interesting thing about Nirvana, at least for me, is that unlike some other bands that were big at the same time, they haven't really aged well for me. They're "of the time" and don't really work well for me anymore. And of course I just couldn't pass up mentioning that I was never a big fan of "Come as You Are" with the bass line copied almost note for note from Killing Joke's "Eighties". ;-) The interesting thing about Nirvana, at least for me, is that unlike some other bands that were big at the same time, they haven’t really aged well for me. They’re “of the time” and don’t really work well for me anymore.

And of course I just couldn’t pass up mentioning that I was never a big fan of “Come as You Are” with the bass line copied almost note for note from Killing Joke’s “Eighties”. ;-)

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